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Until something’s proven empirically, epistemological concepts at– or whatever your conceptual ideas, they have to make a juxtaposition with reality someplace, so that you know, by empirical evidence, that what you have said was reality is tested to be reality, and proven to be reality. [some of the original text missing] polarized as we are in the lower end of the socio- economic income picture, and they think that uh, they can reach down to our ra– drab existence and lift us up. (Dank an sorin moldovan für den Text) From Letras Mania